Curse

ajc2123 · May 07, 2009, 11:25 AM // 11:25

OMG anet ur su stoopid11!1 why dun you give me skill updaets that i want cuz gw is teh only thing in mah lifw! Stop ruinin mah life!

I dun caer bout zaishen quests and manageri with its new explorable area and nocholas an stylists storage cra that took months to updeat. all I eva do is high end pvpz how m i usppoe to play the game with these currentz skillz

I wan you to update skills everyday cuz that what i want and u should ingor other playrz. besides im the only one that plays ur game anwayz.

/end fake QQ

Wow it's hard to constantly spell bad. Seriously guys...get a life.

On a side note does anyone know where i can find this so called Izzy forum that he discusses skills?

niek2004 · May 07, 2009, 11:29 AM // 11:29

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Originally Posted by wtfisgoingon

GvG/HA dont run palm strikers, why nerf something that isnt even being used?

lol, do you even play this game?

NARCHY · May 07, 2009, 11:32 AM // 11:32

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If I was the guy working at ANET, I wouldn't spend a minute to help this pitiful community.

At start, Anet was paying attention for pvpers, and even made big turnaments with biz prices (50k $ cash, yeye). That's why we arg now, we dont have anything now, neither the "taking care of skillz" part, nor the irl bonus (money, irl meetings, etc)

By buying guildwars, we payed for updates, hat's why if we dont have updates, we are angry =) We're not a community in the first place, we are custumers who bought their product. They ow us those skills updates, and it should be made in time, when it's needed, not 4 months later (i'm not even talking about RA syncjoin or GvG fake top 100 games)

kedde · May 07, 2009, 11:32 AM // 11:32

About some damn time.

Apollo Smile · May 07, 2009, 11:33 AM // 11:33

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Originally Posted by ajc2123

OMG anet ur su stoopid11!1 why dun you give me skill updaets that i want cuz gw is teh only thing in mah lifw! Stop ruinin mah life!

I dun caer bout zaishen quests and manageri with its new explorable area and nocholas an stylists storage cra that took months to updeat. all I eva do is high end pvpz how m i usppoe to play the game with these currentz skillz

I wan you to update skills everyday cuz that what i want and u should ingor other playrz. besides im the only one that plays ur game anwayz.

/end fake QQ

Wow it's hard to constantly spell bad. Seriously guys...get a life.

On a side note does anyone know where i can find this so called Izzy forum that he discusses skills?

You have to earn the right to have access to it. You can't just wander in.

ajc2123 · May 07, 2009, 11:34 AM // 11:34

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Originally Posted by NARCHY

At start, Anet was paying attention for pvpers, and even made big turnaments with biz prices (50k $ cash, yeye). That's why we arg now, we dont have anything now, neither the "taking care of skillz" part, nor the irl bonus (money, irl meetings, etc)

By buying guildwars, we payed for updates, hat's why if we dont have updates, we are angry =) We're not a community in the first place, we are custumers who bought their product. They ow us those skills updates, and it should be made in time, when it's needed, not 4 months later (i'm not even talking about RA syncjoin or GvG fake top 100 games)

I can't believe I have to repeat this again.

GAMES THAT DON'T HAVE MONTHLY FEES ARE NOT REQUIRED TO UPDATE ANYTHING!

We are just lucky like that.

@ Apollo

Ty, didn't know that.

Professor K · May 07, 2009, 11:36 AM // 11:36

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Originally Posted by NARCHY

At start, Anet was paying attention for pvpers, and even made big turnaments with biz prices (50k $ cash, yeye). That's why we arg now, we dont have anything now, neither the "taking care of skillz" part, nor the irl bonus (money, irl meetings, etc)

By buying guildwars, we payed for updates, hat's why if we dont have updates, we are angry =) We're not a community in the first place, we are custumers who bought their product. They ow us those skills updates, and it should be made in time, when it's needed, not 4 months later (i'm not even talking about RA syncjoin or GvG fake top 100 games)

You didn't pay for 1/3 of the game, you paid for all of it. If you choose to ignore the other aspects of the game it isn't ArenaNet's problem.

Nodakim · May 07, 2009, 11:38 AM // 11:38

Games with subscriptions arent also required to have updates.
We are lucky?Wah?

Wild Rituals · May 07, 2009, 11:39 AM // 11:39

I have to ask why does announcments by anet be alloud to be disscussed? it always turns into something like this,
some people say thanks,
others hate it,
others come to troll,
but it goes NOWEHRE it really doesnt
beforee long thing will turn into a pvp vs pve disscussion for the Thousandth time?
i suggest a lock on this before it gets to silly!

NARCHY · May 07, 2009, 11:45 AM // 11:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajc2123

I can't believe I have to repeat this again.

GAMES THAT DON'T HAVE MONTHLY FEES ARE NOT REQUIRED TO UPDATE ANYTHING!

We are just lucky like that.

@ Apollo

Ty, didn't know that.

Did u buy the game in a real store? on the back of mine i can read that the game will be regulary updated. Am i mistaking by thinking the pvp should be updated too, as the pve is ? (if we can call that "pve update" an update...)
The live team are pro-pve players, they dont care at all about pvp, and this is unfair. I know, poor me, but wth, why pve players take the lead on a pvp based game? :O

NARCHY · May 07, 2009, 11:48 AM // 11:48

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Originally Posted by Professor K

You didn't pay for 1/3 of the game, you paid for all of it. If you choose to ignore the other aspects of the game it isn't ArenaNet's problem.

I dont ignore it, i think it's for casuals, I sometime go there, but only to meet some random noob players that help me to have some zcoins.

ajc2123 · May 07, 2009, 11:50 AM // 11:50

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Originally Posted by NARCHY

Did u buy the game in a real store? on the back of mine i can read that the game will be regulary updated. Am i mistaking by thinking the pvp should be updated too, as the pve is ? (if we can call that "pve update" an update...)
The live team are pro-pve players, they dont care at all about pvp, and this is unfair. I know, poor me, but wth, why pve players take the lead on a pvp based game? :O

You want the truth? YOU WANT THE TRUTH!? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!

Well you probably can.

Simple answer, GW is on its last life since Anet moved all their focus on aion and gw2. I'm surprised we still get big updates every 4 months honestly.

aapo · May 07, 2009, 11:51 AM // 11:51

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

If I was a disgruntled customer, I wouldn't buy their pitiful sequel. Nor would all the other disgruntled customers.

- Fair point. Now should the company listen to people who are never satisfied with anything you do, or should they go where happy paying customers are? Luckily majority of Guild Wars players never visit these forums and make suggestions that are just as bad as themselves.

One batch of players comes in and whines that the game is all samey and demand changes. ANET gives them changes in skill update. Then another batch of players comes in and whines that something is overpowered and not fun. First group of players are playing happily. Now ANET nerfs stuff and first group of players returns to whine. It's neverending cycle and all this because ANET decided that ambiguous community opinions matter. Just look at the competitive Warcraft III scene these days. Blizzard doesn't change balance unless there's really pressing reasons to do so and yet all four races with different playstyles are represented in ladder of top players. That is what I call balancing done right.

Aera · May 07, 2009, 11:53 AM // 11:53

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Originally Posted by Chocobo1

Maybe because you can't please the PvP crowd by putting in overpowered skills and invincible mode? PvE is terribly unbalanced, no one complains though. Why? Because it works in your favor. Easy ectos and no skill required builds. Lucky for you, AI can't complain and so no one really cares!

PvP on the other hand, plays against other players. People generally dislike unbalanced situations, and therefore want them changed. As fun as it is to call PvP players the vocal minority, there is still a strong playerbase that enjoys playing PvP. And the moaning etc is all in the hope that eventually we will get listened to and some needed changes will take place.

It's ok, you just stick your zoo :3.

QFT. In PvP there needs to be balance in order for the game to remain fun. In PvE balance hardly makes a difference because you can just discordway/sabway through everything just as easily.

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

The responsibility is shared: Anet did make some terrible mistakes and didn't fix some clearly bugged skills, BUT the PvP community acts with a lot of immaturity and arrogance as a whole (sometimes it feels as if they're continuing their PvP games in the forums, I mean, you have to win an argument right?). The nicest PvP players can mostly be found in game, not on Guru (although it's how I met one ).

How would you feel after being ignored constantly. It's just frustrating; the perfect suggestions are there ( yes they are perfect because we actually have EXPERIENCE playing the top PvP, you can't judge by just observing ) and yet they just buff more random crap.

Surely there are some nice updates, like the one with the Palm Strike nerf etc. but then later they come with crap like Lingering Curse and PnH. Honestly, how does anyone think that would be a good idea to implement?

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Originally Posted by NARCHY

What you dont understand is that this update is vital for a good pvp. What are you interested in ? DoA ? right, imagine they close DoA during 2 months, u cant access it unless u got lucky but it only happens 1 time per week. Then you will understand pvpers. Got it? They need this update TO BE ABLE TO PLAY the game they like.

So plz, dont call us idiots, u look even more pathetic than the whiners.

Exactly my point. I'd imagine it more like this: You need to do a mission to advance in the game. The mission is packed with groups consisting of 30 lvl 28 mursaat, of which 15 are monks. The other 15 are randomized, so you can't spec, you can't kill, you'll just die.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajc2123

OMG anet ur su stoopid11!1 why dun you give me skill updaets that i want cuz gw is teh only thing in mah lifw! Stop ruinin mah life!

I dun caer bout zaishen quests and manageri with its new explorable area and nocholas an stylists storage cra that took months to updeat. all I eva do is high end pvpz how m i usppoe to play the game with these currentz skillz

I wan you to update skills everyday cuz that what i want and u should ingor other playrz. besides im the only one that plays ur game anwayz.

/end fake QQ

Wow it's hard to constantly spell bad. Seriously guys...get a life.

On a side note does anyone know where i can find this so called Izzy forum that he discusses skills?

I actually like the zaishen quests. But that doesn't take away I'd like balance in the game!

Also, no, you can't get to the forums because they're only for top PvP people who know what they're saying. Thought you'd know that.

gremlin · May 07, 2009, 11:53 AM // 11:53

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Originally Posted by Wild Rituals

I have to ask why does announcments by anet be alloud to be disscussed? it always turns into something like this,
some people say thanks,
others hate it,
others come to troll,
but it goes NOWEHRE it really doesnt
beforee long thing will turn into a pvp vs pve disscussion for the Thousandth time?
i suggest a lock on this before it gets to silly!

Totally agree with you but then sometimes its good to let players vent their frustration.
Its probably pointless nearly always ends up silly if it didn't start out that way but it can be entertaining.

One day I really would like a group of players to get a chance to tweak a set of skills according to their view of the game.
It should be a prize offered to the winners of some top pvp winning team.

I really would like to see the comments for their efforts from the player base as well as the anet team.
They would probably be pretty much what we get now a few thanks and loads of moans.

go cubs · May 07, 2009, 11:53 AM // 11:53

Thx for the update Regina...Dont mind waiting for the skill updates

Red Sonya · May 07, 2009, 11:55 AM // 11:55

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Originally Posted by Raccoon

Lets see if you can make up for the delay by finally getting rid of shadow form.

*in before uwsc players BAWWWING*

I agree they didn't mind nerfing Spirit Boon to death why not Shadow Form? At least make Shadow Form non permanent by 15 seconds no matter what skills they use to keep it up. Then Shadow Form will be ok. Shadow Form implies sneaking and should only be allowed to sneak by a mob if you're trying to get some place without being noticed, but, if you attack it should come down. That's the way I'd balance it.

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Originally Posted by Wild Rituals
I have to ask why does announcments by anet be alloud to be disscussed? it always turns into something like this,
some people say thanks,
others hate it,
others come to troll,
but it goes NOWEHRE it really doesnt
beforee long thing will turn into a pvp vs pve disscussion for the Thousandth time?
i suggest a lock on this before it gets to silly!

You forgot to add "those that come into the thread to complain about the complaining and generally being silly.
Those that would enforce their own agenda's vs anyone else in the entire world because they think they are god, judge and jury of all on the Guru forum.
Those that would say where a thread was going without even knowing where a thread is going like they are some kind of psychic guru.

DreamWind · May 07, 2009, 12:04 PM // 12:04

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

Regina recently said in a 4th anniversary interview that PvP is only 10% of the community:

Hmm...gee I wonder why. (Hint: It isn't the players' fault).

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Originally Posted by Chocobo1

Maybe because you can't please the PvP crowd by putting in overpowered skills and invincible mode? PvE is terribly unbalanced, no one complains though. Why? Because it works in your favor. Easy ectos and no skill required builds. Lucky for you, AI can't complain and so no one really cares!

Correct sir. The reason Guild Wars failed as a competitive game (its main purpose I might add) is because Anet pulls stupid crap like this. Everything else is more important, then when the balance is finally released the game is still a big mess. The only difference is PvP players care about this stuff and PvE players mostly don't.

Bring on the skill balance!

Mr. G · May 07, 2009, 12:06 PM // 12:06

Meh I can wait.

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Did u buy the game in a real store? on the back of mine i can read that the game will be regulary updated. Am i mistaking by thinking the pvp should be updated too, as the pve is ? (if we can call that "pve update" an update...)
The live team are pro-pve players, they dont care at all about pvp, and this is unfair. I know, poor me, but wth, why pve players take the lead on a pvp based game? :O

It said it would be regularly updated and it is. They didnt promise regular skill updates, or regular updates that you will like.

I'm so tempted to break out another poster for this... I realise I risk running the PvP Stereotypes here but is it possible for a PvP player to make a criticism without using the phrase:

"Guildwars is based around PvP"

I'm not a heavy PvPer (as in I sleep once in a while) but lemme see if I can work this out. You want these updates so the game doesnt get stale, however you all want the holy grail of "perfect" balance.

So you want a game that doesnt get stale where nothing ever changes?

Good luck with that.

Sometimes I feel sorry for Regina. They say don't shoot the messenger but she must be so full of holes she leaks when she drinks.

Teh [prefession]-zorz · May 07, 2009, 12:14 PM // 12:14

well maybe ill actually start playing again if the skill update is any good...